Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/07/2001 01:37 PM Senate HES

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                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                   
       SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         February 7, 2001                                                                                       
                             1:37 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Senator Lyda Green, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Loren Leman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
Senator Jerry Ward                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 64                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the award of a high school diploma to certain                                                               
World War II veterans."                                                                                                         
     MOVED CSSB 64(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 40                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the  education of children with disabilities and                                                            
of  gifted   children;  relating   to  the  Governor's  Council   on                                                            
Disabilities  and Special Education;  making conforming amendments;                                                             
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 40 - No previous action.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 64 - No previous action.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Major General Phil Oates                                                                                                        
Commissioner                                                                                                                    
Department of Military &                                                                                                        
  Veterans Affairs                                                                                                              
PO Box 5800                                                                                                                     
Ft Richardson, AK  99505-0800                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supports SB 64                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Bruce Johnson, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
 Early Development                                                                                                              
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supports SB 40                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Greg Maloney, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Special Education                                                                                                   
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
 Early Development                                                                                                              
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions regarding SB 40                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-9, SIDE A                                                                                                             
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYDA GREEN  called  the  Senate Health,  Education  &  Social                                                          
Services  Committee  meeting to  order at  1:37 p.m.   Present  were                                                            
Senators  Leman,  Wilken,  Davis and  Green.    The first  order  of                                                            
business to come before the committee was SB 64.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         SB  64-HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA FOR CERTAIN WWII VETS                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR  GENERAL  PHIL  OATES,  Commissioner   of  the  Department  of                                                            
Military and Veterans  Affairs (DMVA), stated that  SB 64 honors our                                                            
veterans and recognizes  the achievements that WWII veterans made to                                                            
our  country.   Some  15 states  have  already  enacted legislation                                                             
awarding high  school diplomas to  WWII veterans and 11 states  have                                                            
legislation  pending.  About 63,000  veterans live in Alaska  today;                                                            
about 10 percent of those  are WWII vets.  About 150 Alaska veterans                                                            
would be  eligible to  receive a  high school  diploma under  SB 64,                                                            
including Alaska's Territorial National Guard members.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SB 64 applies  to WWII veterans  who dropped  out of high school  or                                                            
did not finish high school  because of their military service.  This                                                            
project is known nationally  as Operation Recognition.  During WWII,                                                            
many men  and women  left the comforts  of home  and high school  to                                                            
fight.   Later in  life, many wished  they had  received a  diploma.                                                            
Providing  one is  the least  we can  do as  a sign  of respect  and                                                            
recognition.   SB 64 will allow the  Alaska Department of  Education                                                            
and Early Development  (DOEED) to  award a diploma to WWII  veterans                                                            
who served  during the period from  August 7, 1940 to July  5, 1947.                                                            
Veterans with  a GED are also eligible.  He asked  committee members                                                            
to support the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD joined the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  asked, tongue in cheek, "General Oates,  you know how                                                            
we've been  working for accountability  in our education  system, do                                                            
you think it  would be appropriate  to have these veterans  pass the                                                            
competency exam?"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL  OATES replied, "Senator Leman, since  we're not quite                                                            
to the  competency exam  period, I  think we'll  move with haste  at                                                            
this  time."   He added  he is  quite confident  that  all of  these                                                            
veterans have  exceeded the requirements  expected of a high  school                                                            
graduate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WARD asked if  SB 64 applies  to the  Merchant Marines  who                                                            
were called to duty.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR  GENERAL  OATES  said  it  does  as  they  are  recognized  as                                                            
veterans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN  announced  that  she sponsored  an  amendment  at  the                                                            
request  of DMVA.   The intent  of the  amendment is  to allow  WWII                                                            
veterans who later  received a general equivalency  diploma to apply                                                            
for a high school diploma.  It reads:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 12-13, delete "or general equivalency diploma".                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WARD  moved  to  adopt  the  amendment.    There  being  no                                                            
discussion or objection, the motion carried.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further questions, SENATOR LEMAN moved  CSSB 64(HES)                                                            
from committee  with individual recommendations and  its zero fiscal                                                            
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN announced the committee would hear SB 40.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  announced  that  he would  be  leaving  shortly  to                                                            
testify before another committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
            SB  40-EDUC.OF DISABLED OR GIFTED CHILDREN                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BRUCE JOHNSON,  Deputy  Commissioner  of DOEED,  stated he  was                                                            
testifying  on behalf of the Administration  and made the  following                                                            
comments.   Since a similar bill was  considered by the legislature                                                             
last  year, DOEED  worked  with the  Governor's Council  on  Special                                                            
Education and Disabilities,  Parents Inc., the Disability Law Center                                                            
and school  district  representatives  to obtain  input in  drafting                                                            
this  legislation.    Members  of the  three  advocacy  groups  then                                                            
reviewed  the proposed legislation  and provided  feedback  that was                                                            
incorporated  into SB 40.   A list of the  representatives  from the                                                            
various organizations who  worked with DOEED has been distributed to                                                            
committee members.   DOEED also solicited  information from  parents                                                            
and representatives  of gifted children. SB 40 accomplishes  several                                                            
important purposes.  He provided the following highlights.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 40 updates the special  education statutes in accordance with the                                                            
federal Individuals  with Disabilities Act as amended  in 1997 (IDEA                                                            
97).  IDEA 97  contains a number of policy modifications,  including                                                            
strengthening  parental rights and  improving academic outcomes  for                                                            
children with  disabilities.  SB 40 helps ensure that  children with                                                            
disabilities  will  continue  to  receive  appropriate  educational                                                             
services and  that Alaska will continue  to be eligible for  federal                                                            
special  education funds.   For FY  02 these funds  are expected  to                                                            
total more than $19 million.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 40  further defines  Alaska's special  education policy  in areas                                                            
where IDEA 97  provides states with discretion.  For  example, SB 40                                                            
modifies  current statute  by requiring state  boarding schools  and                                                            
statewide   correspondence   schools  that   enroll  children   with                                                            
disabilities   from  outside  their  district  to  provide   special                                                            
education  and  related  services.    SB 40  also  limits  a  school                                                            
district's  responsibility  to  provide  services to  children  with                                                            
disabilities  who attend private  schools to  the level required  by                                                            
IDEA 97.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB  40 more  clearly differentiates   the federal  requirements  for                                                            
providing educational  services to  children with disabilities  from                                                            
state  requirements for  providing  educational  services to  gifted                                                            
children.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked Dr. Johnson  to repeat his statement about private                                                            
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSON  explained  that  SB  40  limits  a  school  district's                                                            
responsibility  to provide  services to  children with disabilities                                                             
who attend private  schools.  He said Mr. Maloney  will elaborate on                                                            
that  concept.    Students  will  still  receive  services  but  the                                                            
services will be limited to what is required by federal law.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON continued highlighting SB 40.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Under  SB 40,  school  districts  must continue  to  provide  gifted                                                            
education  programs, however  districts are  required to serve  only                                                            
gifted   children  enrolled   in  and  attending   public   schools.                                                            
Additionally,  districts  will  no  longer be  required  to  provide                                                            
related  services,  such  as  individual  transportation  to  gifted                                                            
children.  However, a gifted  student could be identified as a child                                                            
with a disability as well,  thereby qualifying for related services.                                                            
Where appropriate,  different terminology describing  the components                                                            
of gifted  education has  been incorporated  to further distinguish                                                             
gifted  education   from  federally  funded  and  mandated   special                                                            
education and related services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SB  40 also  maintains  DOEED's responsibility  for  overseeing  the                                                            
gifted education  programs provided  by school districts.   Although                                                            
the new  legislation does  not add new  responsibilities, DOEED  has                                                            
not  previously   had  the  resources  to  adequately   fulfill  its                                                            
obligation.   Therefore  a general  fund  increment in  the FY  2002                                                            
budget  for  the  Division  of  Teaching  and  Learning  Support  is                                                            
requested to cover  the cost of DOEED's oversight  responsibilities.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSON asked  Mr.  Maloney to  outline  some of  the  proposed                                                            
changes within SB 40.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREG  MALONEY, director  of the Division  of Special  Education,                                                            
DOEED, referred  to a DOEED document  entitled, "HB 71/SB  40 An Act                                                            
Relating to the  Education of Children with Disabilities  and Gifted                                                            
Children" and  made the following  comments about the provisions  of                                                            
SB 40.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
First, SB 40  changes the terminology  in statute from "exceptional                                                             
children" to "children with disabilities" and "gifted children."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Subsections  (3),  (4)  and  (5)  were  added   to  Sec.  14.30.186.                                                            
Subsection (3) states that  children at a treatment, correctional or                                                            
youth detention facility  who are eligible for special education and                                                            
related  services  shall  be  served by  the  borough,  city  school                                                            
district,  or regional  educational  attendance  area  in which  the                                                            
facility is located.  Subsection  (4) will require special education                                                            
services  to be  provided  by  state boarding  schools  that  enroll                                                            
students  with disabilities.   Subsection  (5)  requires a  district                                                            
that provides  a statewide  correspondence  study program to  ensure                                                            
that services  are provided to children  with disabilities  enrolled                                                            
in those programs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Regarding  due process hearings,  DOEED is  proposing to change  the                                                            
current two-tier due process  system.  Under the current system, the                                                            
district is responsible  for assigning a hearing officer  and, after                                                            
the decision, the parent  or district can appeal to DOEED.  Under SB
40, DOEED  would assign  the hearing  officer and  an appeal  of the                                                            
hearing officer's decision  would go directly to the Alaska Superior                                                            
Court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if payment for  the hearing officer would  remain                                                            
at the local district level.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said DOEED  anticipates it will be paid for by the local                                                            
school district.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  explained  the next  change pertains  to mediation;  AS                                                            
14.30  will  be amended  to  add a  new  section.   Mediation  is  a                                                            
voluntary  dispute  resolution  process  provided  for in  the  most                                                            
recent  federal  statute  and  regulations   pertaining  to  special                                                            
education.   States  will sponsor  programs in  which districts  and                                                            
parents can voluntarily enter into mediation to resolve issues.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if DOEED will name  the mediator, subject  to the                                                            
approval of both sides.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  said DOEED is already  doing that.  DOEED oversees  the                                                            
mediation system  but has a contractor  that provides mediators  and                                                            
does  the day-to-day  logistical   assignments.   The  mediators  go                                                            
onsite.  The process  is free to both the district  and the parents.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if that  cost is included  in DOEED's budget  and                                                            
will continue to be.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if  a mediator  can be used  for either  students                                                            
with a disability or for gifted students.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY  said  that  mediation  is  not  available  for  gifted                                                            
education because it is a federally funded program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY continued discussing  SB 40.  The next change to statute                                                            
is to  individualized  education program  (IEP)  components. In  the                                                            
current  statute,  the  IEP  components  for  gifted  education  and                                                            
special  education and  related services  are combined.   In  SB 40,                                                            
DOEED separated  the special education  requirements, which  are the                                                            
federal requirements, for  students with disabilities, and cited the                                                            
federal regulations that  pertain to the IEP components.  For gifted                                                            
students  there  is  no federal  mandate,  so  the  components  were                                                            
maintained  and listed in the section  of SB 40 that relates  to the                                                            
gifted IEP.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked Mr. Maloney if  he believes it is appropriate  to                                                            
use the same name for both categories of students.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY  said   DOEED  has  changed  that  and   now  calls  it                                                            
"individualized gifted education program."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY explained the  next change is a DOEED proposal requiring                                                            
districts  to serve  students  enrolled in  private  schools to  the                                                            
degree mandated by federal  regulations and legislation.  Currently,                                                            
students  enrolled  in private  school are  served  by the  resident                                                            
district and  there is no difference  between the services  provided                                                            
to public  or  private school  students.  Districts  do not  receive                                                            
similar  funding  for  those  students.    Under  DOEED's  proposal,                                                            
private school  students would be able to receive  services from the                                                            
districts   according   to  mandates   contained   in  the   federal                                                            
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if  the districts  will receive  any funding  for                                                            
providing those services.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY explained  that under current Alaska statute,  a student                                                            
enrolled in  private school is eligible  for the same services  as a                                                            
student enrolled in public  school.  The federal law and regulations                                                            
require less than that  - they require that a proportionate share of                                                            
funds  be spent  on private  school  special education.    Districts                                                            
would not  be required  to provide  the total  array of services  to                                                            
students enrolled in private school.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  if that level of service is referenced  in 34 CFR                                                            
300.450-462.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said that is correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN  asked  if it  says  the  services  provided  to  these                                                            
students would  not have to be the same as if they  were enrolled in                                                            
public school.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked what DOEED is currently doing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said  under statute, private and public  school students                                                            
would be treated the same.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN said he  is trying  to figure out  what problem  this                                                            
fixes.   He  asked Mr.  Maloney to  supply him  with a  list of  the                                                            
services required  under federal law and the services  provided now.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if only federal money will be used.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY replied,  "The way the federal government  would look at                                                            
it is they would  track how we are spending their  federal funds and                                                            
so  the proportionate   amount  would be  how  we  spent -  has  the                                                            
district spent  a similar amount of federal funds  on private school                                                            
as they  have on  public school,  or kids  who are  enrolled in  the                                                            
school  district itself?   So they  don't track  the state  funding,                                                            
particularly in  the block grant, if there is no direct  correlation                                                            
between student enrollment with special ed and funding."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  if it is possible to get partial  funding so that                                                            
if there is the need, the funding follows the child.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said  funding does not typically follow  the child - not                                                            
in public school either.   Funding is based on the count periods but                                                            
those have been changed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  said it is based on  a count on a specific  date so a                                                            
student can withdraw but  the school will continue to get funded for                                                            
that student.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  said that  prior to the  passage of  SB 36, a  district                                                            
could quantify a special  education student.  Now, the actual number                                                            
of  those who  qualify  for gifted,  special  education,  vocational                                                            
education or bilingual  education is not used, a straight 20 percent                                                            
is used.  She said she  thinks it is important that the treatment be                                                            
equal and she would prefer to find a way to do that.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON  said  the part-time  student  law does  address this  -                                                            
those students  are counted  for at  least one  quarter.  A  student                                                            
with  a more  significant  disability gets  counted  in the  regular                                                            
student count  for funding purposes  and then gets the add-on  of 20                                                            
percent  to  help  offset the  higher  costs  of  special  education                                                            
services.   The difficulty  is a  situation where  a student  is not                                                            
enrolled  part-time or the  service provided  might only be  offered                                                            
for  a  total of  one  hour  per  week.   That  does  not  meet  the                                                            
proportional  minimum  of  one quarter  time  so the  funding  comes                                                            
directly  from the  district's  pocket.   Therefore,  under the  old                                                            
formula,  private   school  students  receiving  special   education                                                            
services  from  the public  school  were  counted in  the  district.                                                            
Districts were given some money to support those services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN said she thought that was an omission.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY  said  it has  been  a  resource  issue  as well  as  a                                                            
logistical   issue  for  how  best   to  serve  students   in  these                                                            
institutions.   DOEED  will provide  the committee  with  additional                                                            
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN said  his initial  reaction  is to figure  out a  fix                                                            
along the lines  that Chair Green  mentioned.  He agrees  that a fix                                                            
is necessary.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN asked,  if a  student is  fully qualified  for  special                                                            
education services, how  much of the 20 percent is actually spent on                                                            
the student.   She questioned what  the financial requirement  is to                                                            
provide  the average  service  and  whether  a lesser  amount  would                                                            
fulfill it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  continued  with his presentation.   On  page 25  of the                                                            
handout,  the requirements  for the gifted  education programs  have                                                            
been  separated   out  into   separate  sections   of  the   statute                                                            
(14.30.351).                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  pointed  out that all  of those  provisions are  beyond                                                            
what the federal government requires or pays for.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY referred to  page 27 (Comparison of Current and Proposed                                                            
Legislation) and  said one of the purposes is to make  it easier for                                                            
parents and  districts to  refer back to  see what the requirements                                                             
are for gifted education  and how they differ from special education                                                            
services.   He noted that  districts will  no longer be required  to                                                            
provide   related    services   to   gifted   students,    including                                                            
transportation.  Related  services also include occupational, speech                                                            
and  language  therapy,  and  counseling.   He  explained  that  the                                                            
current statute says that  exceptional children will receive special                                                            
education  services so  some differences  were  created when  gifted                                                            
children were separated out.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN  noted that  goes  back  to the  original  concept  for                                                            
special transportation  - that special education students might have                                                            
special  safety and  access needs,  which  one would  assume that  a                                                            
gifted child who is not disabled would not need.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  summarized  by saying the  bill is  complex in  that it                                                            
mixes state and federal  terminology.  DOEED has published an Alaska                                                            
Special Education  Handbook.  It is  a policy and procedures  guide.                                                            
DOEED is currently printing an updated guide for parents.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN asked  if districts  will  make that  available to  any                                                            
parent who inquires about special education services.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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MR.  MALONEY said  they  will.   He noted  DOEED also  supports  the                                                            
Governor's Council  with advocacy efforts to provide  support to the                                                            
parent  and training  information  center,  which is  Parents,  Inc.                                                            
DOEED  continues  to look  for ways  to  make the  information  more                                                            
accessible because the statute is very complex.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN agreed  that the  statute  can be daunting  to  parents                                                            
because it contains references to federal statute.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN asked  for  a copy  of the  parent guide  when it  is                                                            
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN took public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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MR. STEVE LEVINE, Mat-Su  Borough School District Supervisor for the                                                            
Gifted and  Talented Education  Extended Learning  Program,  said he                                                            
wanted to reiterate  some of the testimony given this  morning on HB
71.  He expressed  concern that the  least restrictive environment,                                                             
on page  15 of SB  40, would preclude  the gathering  of gifted  and                                                            
talented students.   Research shows  that a necessary part  of their                                                            
program  is  to  spend   time  together  because  of   their  common                                                            
intellectual abilities.   Second, he is concerned  about a statewide                                                            
definition  of what "gifted"  is.  He believes  the local  education                                                            
areas  should  define  that  for  their  communities  and  establish                                                            
eligibility criteria based upon that definition.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if Mr.  Levine means that a gifted child in Mat-Su                                                            
might fall  under different eligibility  requirements than  a gifted                                                            
child in Juneau.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE said the definitions  can differ radically.  One district                                                            
may  make  the  eligibility  criteria  specific  to  those  who  are                                                            
cognitively gifted  while another might include gifted  and talented                                                            
or speak of multiple intelligences.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN   asked  Mr.   Levine  if  he   is  referring   to  the                                                            
identification section on page 13 (Sec. 14.30.353).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVINE  said he is.  He pointed  out language on page  17, lines                                                            
15 and 16, contains a definition of "gifted education."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN said she would  have a representative from DOEED address                                                            
that concern after the public testimony is taken.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2338                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DEBBIE OSSIANDER,  Anchorage  School  Board, said  in  general,                                                            
Anchorage  is not  supportive  of separating  gifted  services  from                                                            
special  education  services  unless  it has  been  determined  with                                                            
certainty  that Alaska  is  in jeopardy  of losing  federal  special                                                            
education funds.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-9, SIDE B                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER made addressed the following points.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Page 3, Sec. 5.  The Anchorage School District has been                                                                    
     struggling  with the best way to incorporate  Medicaid payments                                                            
     for  children who  are served  by the district.   The  District                                                            
     understands that Medicaid  should be the first payer for health                                                            
     services.    Currently,  students enter  school  with  Medicaid                                                            
     services,  but  once they  are enrolled  in  the District,  the                                                            
     District  must   assume  the  cost  of  those  services.    The                                                            
     Anchorage  School  District would  like language  added to  the                                                            
     bill to reflect its  understanding of federal requirements that                                                            
     Medicaid pay first.                                                                                                        
   · Page 9, Sec. 21.  This section addresses children who have to                                                              
     leave their  home district for services.  The  Anchorage School                                                            
     District's  concern   is centered   around  children  who  need                                                            
     residential   services  for  mental  health  problems.    These                                                            
     students are very  expensive to educate and currently there are                                                            
     not adequate services for these children in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN  asked Ms.  Ossiander  if  her concern  is  the  phrase                                                            
"school district" on line 8.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER said  her concern  is  on line  17.   She believes  a                                                            
sentence should  be added to clarify  who will absorb the  cost when                                                            
an exceptional circumstance occurs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN noted that this concern is not new ground.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER  said the  districts have  received regulations  about                                                            
this section  and current  regulations say  something to the  effect                                                            
that if there  is a situation of exceptional cost,  the district can                                                            
request help  from the State.   Her understanding  is that  DOEED is                                                            
considering eliminating  that section.  She expressed  concern about                                                            
the word "may" on line 17, page 9.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  pointed out  that the  only change  to that section  of                                                            
statute  is  the   word  "school"  was  inserted  before   the  word                                                            
"district."  She acknowledged  that Ms. Ossiander is asking that the                                                            
entire question of who will absorb the cost be addressed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER continued.                                                                                                        
   · Page 12, line 22.  DOEED needs to clarify its expectations                                                                 
     about   "informed   consent"    and   to  provide    formalized                                                            
     instructions  to parents.   She noted  that it is expensive  to                                                            
     provide a  booklet to parents, especially in  light of the fact                                                            
     that about 80 languages are spoken in Anchorage.                                                                           
   · Page 13,  Article 3A.  The Anchorage School District is                                                                    
     concerned  about  immediately  going  to  due  process  without                                                            
     mediation  or an administrative review because  it will require                                                            
     a more expensive approach.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY explained  that  mediation would  not  be provided  for                                                            
gifted students because  mediation falls under a federally sponsored                                                            
program that does not cover gifted students.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked when a preconference hearing occurs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said the preconference  hearing is addressed on page 16,                                                            
line 16 of SB 40.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  if the same hearing officer would  preside at the                                                            
preconference hearing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  said it could be termed  a form of mediation  but it is                                                            
not referred  to as  such because  mediation is  a federally  funded                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER  said  she  would  like  to  discuss  that  with  the                                                            
Anchorage School  Board.  Her next  concern is on page 14,  lines 17                                                            
and  25.   The Board  will need  clarification  from  DOEED of  what                                                            
"short-term  instructional  objectives" means.   She also  expressed                                                            
concern about the least  restrictive environment section on page 15.                                                            
All educational research  that she has seen indicates that it is far                                                            
more appropriate to "pull  out" gifted children.  She explained that                                                            
the  Anchorage  School District  has  two  programs of  service  for                                                            
gifted students.  One program  is for highly gifted students who are                                                            
in the  top two percent  of the population.   Those children  attend                                                            
one elementary  school and one high  school in Anchorage.   They are                                                            
bussed  from Girdwood,  Peters Creek  and all over  Anchorage.   The                                                            
district also  provides gifted services  for elementary students  by                                                            
having them  pulled out one  day per week  to a regional  elementary                                                            
school  to take classes  for a  half day.   If the  district uses  a                                                            
strict interpretation  of  least restrictive  environment, it  would                                                            
have  to provide  extensive  justification  for  every  student  for                                                            
bussing them elsewhere.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1925                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN  said  he  would like  the  bill  to  require  school                                                            
districts to  meet the minimum and  allow them to go beyond  that by                                                            
providing a separate environment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN commented that this is an issue of population.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  stated that this section  of the bill does not  mandate                                                            
that the same  provisions be applied to all students.   In fact, the                                                            
least  restrictive environment  is  mandated to  the maximum  extent                                                            
appropriate.     That  means  when   the  eligibility  and   program                                                            
determination  groups  get  together,  they  would  talk  about  the                                                            
services that  each student would  require and where those  services                                                            
would best  be provided.   This  section emphasizes  the benefit  of                                                            
including  disabled and gifted  students with  their same age  peers                                                            
who are not designated as such.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN said it will  be up to the districts to fund the systems                                                            
they have chosen.   She asked Mr.  Maloney if he thinks anything  in                                                            
that section should  be revised to address Ms. Ossiander's  concern.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  said, as he reads Section  14.30.355, it still  resides                                                            
within the  district to make the determination  of how students  who                                                            
are identified  as gifted will receive services.   However, a parent                                                            
has the right  to challenge a district's  program under the  current                                                            
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if the due process  hearing would be based  on SB
40.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said it will if the bill passes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  said he is  troubled by this  language and feels  the                                                            
committee's  intent should  be clearly established  in this  hearing                                                            
record.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN asked  Ms.  Ossiander  and Mr.  Levine  to contact  her                                                            
office or Mr.  Maloney to discuss  this section and get back  to the                                                            
committee with  suggestions.  She  noted she sees the difficulty  in                                                            
writing  language  for a  gifted program  for  a district  that  has                                                            
multiple schools  and thousands of students, versus  a district with                                                            
one school.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER   said  she   agrees  with   Mr.  Levine  about   the                                                            
identification  of  gifted children.    The Anchorage  School  Board                                                            
reads  this to  mean it  would  have to  operate under  a  statewide                                                            
identification  system.   The  Board favors  local  control in  this                                                            
matter  and it  has some  concerns  about expanding  the  definition                                                            
beyond the service  that it currently provides.  Her  last point was                                                            
that  the  special   education  budget  for  Anchorage,   and  other                                                            
districts,  is inadequate.  This is  the one budget area  that keeps                                                            
climbing  and the districts  are continually  striving to deal  with                                                            
the mandates  they face.   She urged the committee,  as it  looks at                                                            
the  private   school  issue,  that   districts  are  straining   to                                                            
adequately provide  special education services.  She  also urged the                                                            
committee  to include, as  is current practice,  transportation  for                                                            
gifted students because  Anchorage is bussing gifted children to one                                                            
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1634                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. LOUISE  PARISH said she  is speaking on  behalf of children  and                                                            
herself.  She  is a member of several  advocacy organizations.   She                                                            
has  a 16  year  old, dyslexic  daughter  who  she has  had  trouble                                                            
getting services  for.  She has been through a due  process hearing.                                                            
She read from  IDEA 97 regarding the  least restrictive environment                                                             
and noted that she would  fax a copy of the questions that she asked                                                            
the House  Special  Committee  on Education  that morning.   She  is                                                            
concerned  about  the state  performance  goals and  indicators  and                                                            
believes  DOEED  should publicly  [indisc.]  for  regular  students'                                                            
performance.   She feels the least  restrictive environment  section                                                            
should   include   the   words,    "if   it   cannot   be   achieved                                                            
satisfactorily."  Regarding  participation assessments, DOEED should                                                            
allow for appropriate  participation in statewide  assessments.  The                                                            
section about  procedural safeguards  does not contain the  new IDEA                                                            
97  procedural  safeguards.    She  read  the  IDEA  97  section  on                                                            
evaluations,  which states that no  singular procedure shall  be the                                                            
sole criteria  for determining  an appropriate  educational  program                                                            
for a  child.  She  would like  that requirement  put into  statute.                                                            
[MOST OF MS. PARISH'S TESTIMONY WAS INAUDIBLE.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN   thanked  her  and   noted  her  questions   would  be                                                            
distributed to committee members.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1217                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOB  BRIGGS, representing  the Disability  Law Center of  Alaska                                                            
(DLCA),  informed   committee  members   that  he  worked   on  this                                                            
legislation  during the  interim.  He  met with  DOEED one day  last                                                            
fall, along  with five other people  representing the DLCA.   Two of                                                            
those people  were parents  of disabled children;  one a lawyer  and                                                            
one a retired  school administrator.   They were thankful  to debate                                                            
the different  aspects of  HB 301/SB 205,  last year's legislation.                                                             
He clarified that  his group did not participate in  the drafting of                                                            
SB  40.   His group  did  have an  opportunity  to meet  with  DOEED                                                            
officials  to discuss  the bill but  he doesn't  feel the group  was                                                            
able to respond to DOEED  as well as it would have liked.  DOEED has                                                            
definitely  made an overture to get  the group's views but  the DLCA                                                            
staff person assigned  to this bill resigned last  year and, coupled                                                            
with the  death of  DLCA's executive  director,  DLCA is very  short                                                            
staffed.  He offered to  submit a written statement to the committee                                                            
at this time but  he would like to discuss some concerns  with DOEED                                                            
prior to bringing them to the committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN  noted  she  would schedule  Mr.  Briggs  to  give  his                                                            
presentation  the following  week.   She asked Dr.  Johnson and  Mr.                                                            
Maloney  to address  some of the  concerns expressed  during  public                                                            
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSON  said  they  would  address  the more  straightforward                                                             
concerns right now and  address the more complicated ones at a later                                                            
date, due to time constraints.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  said his thoughts on  the concerns expressed  about the                                                            
least  restrictive   environment   section  are  that  the   special                                                            
education  community sees  a value  in educating  disabled  students                                                            
with their  non-disabled peers to  the extent possible.   In looking                                                            
at that  same environment  for gifted  students,  there may be  some                                                            
different  desires but that  will depart  from the current  statute.                                                            
Current statute  treats the least restrictive environment  provision                                                            
similarly for children with disabilities and gifted children.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN thought the difference to be acceptable.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON  noted that one  of the challenges  that DOEED  faced at                                                            
that last go-around  was that anytime  they tried to differentiate,                                                             
it was suggested  that DOEED was limiting the scope  of services for                                                            
gifted  students.   Therefore,  DOEED's  approach  in SB  40 was  to                                                            
include everything  that is currently in statute unless  there was a                                                            
specific reason to change it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY  said  the  second  concern  expressed  was  about  the                                                            
statewide  definition   of  "gifted."    Currently,   districts  are                                                            
required  to identify  gifted students  so each  district submits  a                                                            
plan with identifying  criteria to DOEED.  There is  no move to have                                                            
a statewide  definition  that prescribes  who is  gifted and  who is                                                            
not.   It provides  a general overview  of what  gifted is but  each                                                            
district is required to put that in more detail.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON  added that  eligibility criteria  is for communication                                                             
purposes at  the local district level.   DOEED does not have  enough                                                            
lifetimes to figure out  a statewide definition, given what it hears                                                            
from around the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  thought the bill may  need some clarifying language  to                                                            
specify  DOEED's  intent.   She asked  if  DOEED will  continue  its                                                            
current practice of approving  each district's eligibility criteria.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON said the eligibility  criteria will be approved district                                                            
by district.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY said, regarding  Medicaid funding for disabled students,                                                            
Medicaid  funding cuts  across agencies,  it is  not necessarily  an                                                            
education  funding  issue.    DOEED has  been  working  with  school                                                            
districts  and  other  agencies  to explore  ways  to  maximize  the                                                            
funding  that can  be received  under Medicaid.   He  said he  could                                                            
assure  the  respondent  that  DOEED  is looking  for  all  ways  to                                                            
increase resources to districts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY stated  that,  regarding  students who  need  placement                                                            
outside of a school district  for mental health or other issues, the                                                            
Alaska Youth Initiative  is designed to keep students  in Alaska and                                                            
local whenever  possible.  DOEED has been working  closely with that                                                            
group to improve and increase their capacity.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Regarding  the concern  that required  information  be presented  to                                                            
parents  in different  languages,  the  Parent Guide,  published  by                                                            
DOEED,   will  be   translated   into  three   languages:   Spanish,                                                            
Philippine,  and   Yupik.    DOEED  also  plans  to  translate   its                                                            
procedural safeguards into three languages.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  asked if the  documents will  be translated  into the                                                            
Tagalog dialect.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY   said  that   is  correct.     Regarding  short   term                                                            
instructional  objectives, he  said that is  a standard approach  to                                                            
IEPs.   An annual goal  is created and that  goal contains  specific                                                            
objectives.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked if that is something  that can be quantified  and                                                            
identified so that a mid-year review can occur.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALONEY  said right  now it  requires an annual  review  but the                                                            
short  term objectives  are  reviewed  so  if they  are  met, it  is                                                            
presumed  the annual  goal will  be met.   He noted  an annual  goal                                                            
might be that  a child's reading skills improve by  one grade level.                                                            
The short term objectives  speak to how that will be done.  He noted                                                            
that has not changed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALONEY  said  DOEED  is  working  on  performance   goals  and                                                            
indicators.   Data on graduation rates,  disability drop-out  rates,                                                            
and performance  on assessments is  available and DOEED is  refining                                                            
it.  DOEED  is required  to report that  information to the  federal                                                            
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  announced that the committee  will revisit this  issue.                                                            
She announced  the committee, during  the week of February  12, will                                                            
hear an  overview by DOEED  and discuss the  high school  graduation                                                            
qualifying  exam.    The  committee   will  also  be  hearing  about                                                            
standards  assessments,  test  contractor  passing scores,  and  the                                                            
legal defensibility  of the  current test.   She then adjourned  the                                                            
meeting at 3:03 p.m.                                                                                                            

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